[kim]

subaru upper engine cleaner is awesome.

long story short i went to subaru and bought some, used it, and car runs a lot better from 2500 to 4500 the flat spot seems to have dissapeared..... i dont think it will usually have such a dramatic effect, but... my motor was pretty f##ked lol.

anywhoo. try it out peeps.. its good staff

This post has been edited by kim: 26 January 2010 - 04:27 PM

[TERRA Operative]

I've been meaning to get a few cans of this stuff. What's it worth these days??

[kim]

Hey Terra. its about 17 dollars per can. i bought 2 cans just in case my motor was so fcuked that it needed 2. but one can was enough.

it worked wonders on my aw11s bigport. the car sounds a lot heathier.
by the way, it goes in the intake manifold, but just for better effect, i taken out the sparkplugs and sqirted a little in the combustion chamber as well as the manifold/

afterwards it hasnt idled the best (for yesterday and today) so i ajusted idle and reset ECU and it idles like a dream

This post has been edited by kim: 26 January 2010 - 04:54 PM

[mats12]

My mate worked at scooby for a few years, reckons it works. They use it as part of their scheduled servicing.

[nknoxy12]

hahaha that s##t is great shame on the price though, good i get it for free...

good stuff, but i use it for degreasing things works great, spray leave it then just spray off just, eats at grease

[redsx90]

let trhis be a warning to all you guys who use this.....

BE CAREFUL WHEN PUTTIN IT IN YOUR MOTOR!!!

i work with subaru as a mechanic. i use it 20 times a day. this is a highly concentrated valve and piston cleaner. please dont take this as just soeone taking a rant. it is designed to eliminate carbon build up on newish cars not flogged 20 yr old high revving 4a's....


i put this stuff in my old 4age when i bought it. 240,000km on mototr and it absolutely destroyed my rings in the car.
my car did not blow any smoke at all previously to this.

i needed a new motor after this.

it is designed for subaru engines as boxer motors are prone to carbon build up because of the horizontally opposed configuration.


so now i do not put it in any other motor apart from subarus or at customers requests.

so just be careful puttin it in i dont want the same thing happening to you as it did to me.

cheers guys

[nknoxy12]

true that

[Adz]

redsx90, on Jan 27 2010, 11:02 AM, said:

let trhis be a warning to all you guys who use this.....

BE CAREFUL WHEN PUTTIN IT IN YOUR MOTOR!!!

i work with subaru as a mechanic. i use it 20 times a day. this is a highly concentrated valve and piston cleaner. please dont take this as just soeone taking a rant. it is designed to eliminate carbon build up on newish cars not flogged 20 yr old high revving 4a's....


i put this stuff in my old 4age when i bought it. 240,000km on mototr and it absolutely destroyed my rings in the car.
my car did not blow any smoke at all previously to this.

i needed a new motor after this.

it is designed for subaru engines as boxer motors are prone to carbon build up because of the horizontally opposed configuration.


so now i do not put it in any other motor apart from subarus or at customers requests.

so just be careful puttin it in i dont want the same thing happening to you as it did to me.

cheers guys

i bought 2 cans today but my liberty has high kays and runs like arse should i still go ahead and use it. The can says repeat procedure if needed ( thats why i bought).

[rthy]

is it met to be some sort of engine degreaser?

[redsx90]

Adz, on Jan 27 2010, 11:51 PM, said:

i bought 2 cans today but my liberty has high kays and runs like arse should i still go ahead and use it. The can says repeat procedure if needed ( thats why i bought).

libertys will be fine. unless you are using excess oil but the cleaner is designed to break down carbon in your engine. it will do a world of good for your car. u may need to re adjust adle after it if it still has the idle screw controller.

[dj_watt]

Just a hint of what this stuff does as i use it at work on BMW Audi porche and many other expensive cars.
this stuff bakes all carbon deposits where they hide, if you put it in and do it correctly u should be able to take a plug out and have a look in to the chamber and see the upper engine cleaner in there and working.

one of the cars we had come in the top of the piston was black as black and had chunks of carbon on it. when we had finished all the carbon was gone it was like a brand new piston (but not exactly) but make sure u use it in a well ventilated area as some really bad build up does smoke a huge amount.

[xjustinx]

Hey Alex, do you recommend taking the plugs out and giving it a small squirt down there?

I've used it before but just through the intake manifold.

[redsx90]

hey man,

i dont want to say yes or no as i dont know what condition your engine is in but if you would like to do that then go for it. a few squirts in the cc should be fine..... but its up to u....

[xjustinx]

I know this staff can eat valves like no tomorrow.

lol




staff

[Seca Boy]

afaik, its the same thing as throttle body cleaner... no?


either way, its the shit... i've used it on my old rb20 in my silvia... worked a treat!
they have a valve on the end of the intake manifold and i took that off and cleaned it with this shit and the car ran so much better after that!!!

[5lovegtz]

Hey redsx90 when you used this stuff in your 4age do you think the reason why you didnt blow smoke before was because of the carbon buildup? and using this stuff just cleaned all that long km of use carbon build up which was keeping your compression. So at the end of the day if a car has high km like that its probably going to do worse things for it then if u just left it alone. its one of those situations where it only does help newish engines say -100K km.
Is this s##t so toxic it eats through metal rings? is this acid or someshit?

[redsx90]

5lovegtz, on Mar 5 2010, 08:54 AM, said:

Hey redsx90 when you used this stuff in your 4age do you think the reason why you didnt blow smoke before was because of the carbon buildup? and using this stuff just cleaned all that long km of use carbon build up which was keeping your compression. So at the end of the day if a car has high km like that its probably going to do worse things for it then if u just left it alone. its one of those situations where it only does help newish engines say -100K km.
Is this s##t so toxic it eats through metal rings? is this acid or someshit?

hey mate,

yes that is the reason why. pretty much carbon build up was holding my motor together lol... no its not an acid but because the rings were worn carbon deposits were on the rings and when i put that stuff through it removed the carbon that was effectively hiolding the motor together mate haha...

as i said above it is a highly concentrated foaming agent which does what its designed to do extremely well. most people have had good experiences with this stuff but it is designed for subarus.... every car is different in its operation etc. the problem is you dont know the condition of the inside of your engine and if its not in the best of shape it can destroy rings, bearings etc.

Hope that helps,

[TERRA Operative]

I wouldn't say it actually destroys rings and bearings. Just that it cleans off the deposits that were filling the gaps, allowing stuff to leak.

[redsx90]

terra,

putting excess engine cleaner in a older motor can actually cause bearing knowck because of the extra fluid in the combustion the motor has to labour extremely hard...

I have had 2 instances at work where old leones karked it because of it.... too much for the bearings to handle...

[TERRA Operative]

You mean hydraulic lock? I would venture to say that you would be using too much at once if that was the case.

[redsx90]

no not hydraulic lock. they do that but then you wind it over by hand... sometimes has the same effect as putting a battery load tester on a running motor....

[Hiro Protagonist]

So you're saying injecting SUEC when the car is not under _any_ load will put more strain on the engine than actually using it to try and pull 1-1.5 tonnes of vehicle up a hill? I doubt that.

[trdee]

bit of misinformation floating around in this thread imo....

[redsx90]

realistically boys you can all believe whatever you want to but at the end of the day i have seen it first hand and i will not make that same mistake again.... you can believe it or not all i was tyring to do is raise awarness about this stuff...

Not misleading at all.

[GZE88]

Also available from Three Bond as 6601J

[WTF-33R/CYA81]

for those in the auto trades Wurth make a similar product that does the same job.
As Alex said. On older cars use caution, definately do in outside not in the garage and make sure once you have finished take it for a good drive to get all the cleaner out of the engine.

[trism]

So apparently you can no longer buy this, subaru doesnt make it as its bad for teh environment

[redsx90]

you can by it by the box load if you want.... its still for sale..

[guillaume]

redsx90, on 05 March 2010 - 01:49 PM, said:

hey mate,

yes that is the reason why. pretty much carbon build up was holding my motor together lol... no its not an acid but because the rings were worn carbon deposits were on the rings and when i put that stuff through it removed the carbon that was effectively hiolding the motor together mate haha...

as i said above it is a highly concentrated foaming agent which does what its designed to do extremely well. most people have had good experiences with this stuff but it is designed for subarus.... every car is different in its operation etc. the problem is you dont know the condition of the inside of your engine and if its not in the best of shape it can destroy rings, bearings etc.

Hope that helps,

i used to work at subaru and the stuff works, i used it on my old subaru 1.8 ae82 boxer motor wich had 270000k's on it, and it made it drive better and never used any oil at all those engines are bulletproof. and sounds awesome with an exhaust, they are slow tho

Now i own a 92 holden nova GS with a 7afe engine, which has 290000 k's on it, i put the upper engine cleaner in as i did in my subaru and now it uses loads of oil, still runs great, but the valve stem seals are stuffed, i just use thicker oil until i get a new engine which will be a 4age.
o and if you use it to clean engine parts dont let the part soak in the upper engine cleaner too long, it turns into thick paste, then you gotta start it all again.