[Wombat8686]

I have recently been debating about getting involved in off road rallies. Strait away I was thinking AE82 or 92. But then i thought maby a AW11 MR2.
Had a quick Google and found nothing. Heaps of tarmac rallly AW11'a but no off road rally cars.
A while ago i owned a 87 S/C AW11 and found it to be quite the weapon in the loose stuff.
Mabey people think it might be a bit unstable and the snap oversteer that they are known for might be a bit much, but the tarmac rally cars dont seem to have a problem.
I would think the extra grip from the RWD and weight over the back wheels would make it a very compedative in a 2WD class.
What do you guys think. Do you know of any? or am I just looking in the wrong places?

[trdee]

the problem with AW11's is that they generally dont fall into a very favourable class for most motorsport.

and yes they are very twitchy.

This post has been edited by trdee: 25 February 2010 - 09:17 PM

[Tazz]

[bway]

trdee, on Feb 25 2010, 09:54 PM, said:

the problem with AW11's is that they generally dont fall into a very favourable class for most motorsport.

and yes they are very twitchy.

The up to 1600 cc class is what they fall into and can be very good in any form of Motorsport. For the record the AW11 was designed and built for 1 thing only...... and it wasn't so Toyota had another 2 door coupe to sell to hairdressers. The AW11 was only ever built by Toyota to go Rallying back in the 80's as a Group "B" Super car, with a 2 litre Turbocharged engine and allwheel drive. It like many other Group "B" cars were meant to make their debut the following year after Group "B" was cancelled by the FAI. There is still 1 prototype in existance in Japan at a Toyota museum that I know of. I have a few more pix of the 1 above after am MR2 day in Japan at this Museum. Will post as I can find them.

This post has been edited by bway: 25 February 2010 - 09:18 PM

[trdee]

thats all well and good until you find a lotus exige is in the same class as you

[Blue_stivo]

it's not the exiges you need to worry about, they classify as U2L anyway, not U1.6, it's the clubmans you need to watch out for.

Another considerration is that it's very difficult to build a cage for the AW11 that will qualify for CAMS sign-off as you need to run the rear runners to the strut towers though the rear window and Lexan rear windscreens are illegal in most competition classes.

This post has been edited by Blue_stivo: 25 February 2010 - 09:34 PM

[trdee]

last i spoke to scott he was saying he was getting dropped in with all the lotuses n whatnot. meh?

there are still the other issues as you have pointed out

[Wombat8686]

I'm in WA so if I was to go rallying with one I would be in the <2L class but unless I wanted to run full WARC i would be in the clubman cup which is restricted to 2WD cars. Mainly escorts, dato's and a bunch of FWD hatches. So I thought with the extra traction it would do well.

You pointed out my other problem which is the roll cage. I have been doing some reserch in the CAM's manual and a a quick glance I dident see anything about the cage actually having to go the strut towers but it might be there. But either way I thing it would be quite a task to fit one anyway.

The other thing is if I actually crashed one, even with a cage there is not to take a decent impact like a tree at 150+.

Also did the aussie AW11 come with a big-port or small-port motor?

[trdee]

no aw11 ever came with a smallport. they all had bigports, either in 4age or 4agze form. gze wasnt available in aussieland though

[Blue_stivo]

Wombat8686, on Feb 26 2010, 12:52 AM, said:

You pointed out my other problem which is the roll cage. I have been doing some reserch in the CAM's manual and a a quick glance I dident see anything about the cage actually having to go the strut towers but it might be there. But either way I thing it would be quite a task to fit one anyway.

I believe that the CAMS regulations state that it is ideal for the rear supports from the roll hoop to be at around a 60 degree angle to the plane of the hoop (ie 30 degrees down from perpendicular) I'm sure they allow a range to accomodate structural differences of different cars, but bolting to the firewall of the AW11 the supports fall far lower than 30 degrees, much closer to 45.